# Room Conversation

*Type: Conversation Dated: April 30th 1969 Location: Boston Audio file: 690430R1-BOSTON.mp3*

**Prabhupāda:** These four things, namely birth, death, old age and disease, will accompany you. Therefore in the *Bhagavad-gītā* it is said that *mad-dhāma gatvā punar janma na vidyate* [Bg 8.16]

**[From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But one who attains to My abode, O son of Kuntī, never takes birth again.]**

"If you reach My abode in the spiritual sky, then you'll have no more birth."

So this male-female question is everywhere. The only difference is that in spiritual world there is no need of sex life, or there is no impelling sex life, although there is attraction between man and woman. That is... Just like Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. There is attraction of Rādhā for Kṛṣṇa and Kṛṣṇa for Rādhā, but there is no sex life.

So male-female, conception of male-female as we have got here, there is concomitant factor of sex life, but that should not be exported to the spiritual world, that idea. There is also male-female, but there is no sex life attraction. That's all right. Yes?

**Devotee:** Swāmījī, I read in the *Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam* in the purport to the [indistinct] *...ślokas...* And I saw in another book about *sambandha, abhidheya,* [indistinct]. Could you explain that? [break]

**Prabhupāda:** That is called *prayojana.* Everyone enters into contact, or agreement, with another. What is the idea? To achieve some profit. To get some profit. Similarly, we have got... [break] [end]