# Room Conversation with Hanuman Prasad Poddar [Hindi and English]

*Room Conversation  with Hanuman Prasad Poddar [Hindi and English] Type: Conversation Dated: February 3rd 1971 Location: Gorakphur Audio file: 710203R1-GORAKPHUR.mp3*

**Prabhupāda: **Ratha-yātrā. [Hindi]

**Hanuman: **[Hindi]

**Prabhupāda: **He is a *gṛhastha*. [Hindi] also *sannyāsī*.. [Hindi] *Gṛhastha*..

> kibā vipra, kibā nyāsī, śūdra kene naya
> yei kṛṣṇa-tattva-vettā, sei 'guru' haya

[*Cc Madhya 8.128*]

**Hanuman: **[Hindi]

**Prabhupāda: **"One has to learn the science of Kṛṣṇa, then he becomes spiritual master. It does not matter whether a *sannyāsī* or a *gṛhastha*."

I've known *gṛhastha* he was 1000 times better than so many *sannyāsīs* [laughs]. [Hindi] Nityānanda prabhu—*gṛhastha,* Advaita prabhu— *gṛhastha*, [Hindi]

> kibā vipra, kibā nyāsī, śūdra kene naya
> yei kṛṣṇa-tattva-vettā, sei 'guru' haya

[*Cc Madhya 8.128*]

**Hanuman: **[Hindi]

**Prabhupāda: **[Hindi] Mahāprabhu's the movement, it is very important. Systematically [Hindi conversation]

**Hanuman: **[Hindi]

**Prabhupāda: **[Hindi] *Yato mat tato path*.

**Hanuman: **[Hindi]

**Prabhupāda: ***Bhutva bhava sa maṇḍita.*

**Hanuman: **[Hindi]

**Prabhupāda: **

> Ataḥśrī-kṛṣṇa-nāmādi
> na bhaved grāhyam indriyaiḥ

[*Cc. Madhya 17.136*]

**Hanuman: **[Hindi conversation]

[04:07]

**Prabhupāda: **[Hindi] government service, government servant [Hindi] first of all, we are servant of Kṛṣṇa we have got claim. [laughs]

**Hanuman: **[Hindi]

[04:25]

**Prabhupāda: ***īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam*: [*Īśo mantra* 1] [Hindi conversation]

[06:49]

**Prabhupāda: ***lokānāṁ hita-kāriṇau* [Hindi]

> nānā-śāstra-vicāraṇaika-nipuṇau sad-dharma-saṁsthāpakau
> lokānāṁ hita-kāriṇau tri-bhuvane mānyau śaraṇyākarau
> rādhā-kṛṣṇa-padāravinda-bhajanānandena mattālikau
> vande rūpa-sanātanau raghu-yugau śrī-jīva-gopālakau

[Śrī Śrī Ṣaḍ-gosvāmy-aṣṭaka 2]

lokānāṁ hita-kāriṇau [Hindi]

[07:28]

patitānāṁ pāvanebhyo vaiṣṇavebhyo namo namaḥ

[Hindi conversation]

**Hanuman: **[Hindi conversation]

[07:58]

**Prabhupāda: **

> māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya
> ye 'pi syuḥ pāpa-yonayaḥ
> striyo vaiśyās tathā śūdrās
> te 'pi yānti parāṁ gatim

[*Bg*. *9.32*]

*pāpa-yonayaḥ*

[Hindi conversation]

[08:14]

> kiṁ punar brāhmaṇāḥ puṇyā
> bhaktā rājarṣayas tathā

[*Bg*. *9.33*]

[Hindi conversation]

[08:30]

> bhārata-bhūmite manuṣya janma haila yāra
> janma sārthaka kari' kara para-upakāra

[*Cc. Ādi 9.41*]

[Hindi conversation]

[09:10] it is the duty of every Indian

[Hindi conversation]

[09:23]

> sarva-dharmān parityajya
> mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja

[*Bg*. *18.66*]

[Hindi conversation]

[09:52] we are canvassing

[Hindi conversation]

[09:58] *kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam* *SB* 1.3.28

[Hindi conversation]

[10:14] I am very well pleased that you are... Certified that this is the greatest service to the humanity.

**Hanuman: **[Hindi]

**Prabhupāda: **Thank you very much. [Hindi conversation]

[10:49] for this materialistic way of life

**Hanuman: **[Hindi]

**Prabhupāda: ***athāto brahma jijñāsā* [*Vedānta-sūtra*] [Hindi conversation]

[12:00] *Bhagavad-gītā As It Is*, *kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam* *SB* 1.3.28, *sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁśaraṇaṁ vraja* Bg. 18.66, *man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru* *Bg.* 18.65

[Hindi conversation]

[13:25]

**Hanuman: **...*brahma-bhūyāya kalpate* Bg. 14.26

> brahma-bhutaḥ prasannātmā
> na śocati na kāṅkṣati
> samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu
> mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām

[*Bg. 18.54*]

*mad-bhaktiṁ, mad*..

**Prabhupāda: **Ah.

**Hanuman: **[Hindi conversation]

[14:15]

**Prabhupāda: **

> bahūnāṁ janmanām ante
> jñānavān māṁ prapadyate

[*Bg. 7.19*]

**Hanuman: ***māṁ prapadyate*

**Prabhupāda*****: ****sa mahātmā su-durlabhaḥ* [Hindi conversation]

**Hanuman: ***māṁ vetti, māṁ vetti.. manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu*

kaścid yatati siddhaye yatatām api siddhānāṁ

[*Bg. 7.3*]

*siddhānām siddhānāṁ*

**Prabhupāda: **Ah.

**Hanuman: ***kaścin māṁ vetti tattvataḥ, siddhānām jñānināṁ*

**Prabhupāda: ***jñāninām muktinaṁ*

**Hanuman: **[Hindi conversation]

[16:22]

**Prabhupāda: **[Hindi] material science... Advanced... 100 years back [Hindi conversation]

[17:40]

**Prabhupāda: **[Hindi]. Nectar of Devotion [Hindi] photographs

[18:04] you have brought some record here?

**Yaśodānandana: **It's in my other case, two records I have got.

**Prabhupāda: **Oh.

**Yaśodānandana: **Two copies of Govinda.

**Prabhupāda: **Reading them and keep them in the library. [Hindi]

[18:29] in Ratha-yātrā Festival in one hour we sold about 24 copies. Although it is very highly priced, eight dollars. But in America they keep the nice dollar cheaper[?] [Hindi] eight dollar.... Oh he has got.. [Hindi]

**Yaśodānandana: **I gave him one already.

**Prabhupāda: **[Hindi conversation] [end]