# Conversation in Car

*Type: Conversation Dated: December 5th 1971 Location: Delhi Audio file: 711205R2-DELHI.mp3*

**Gurudāsa: **The old gate?

**Prabhupāda: **Yes. This is a gate.

[break] …petroleum, and old car also.

[break] …headquarters for officers. [break]

**Gurudāsa: **Yes.

**Prabhupāda: **Secretaries.

**Gurudāsa: **Ministers and…

**Prabhupāda: **Secretaries.

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:** Prabhupāda, that is the Prime Minister's house, isn't it, Gurudāsa?

**Gurudāsa: **No. Home Minister.

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: **Hunger strike.

**Prabhupāda: **[indistinct]

**Gurudāsa: **Prime Minister is not there.

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: **Oh, whoever it is, they're having a hunger strike. His… [break]

**Gurudāsa: **Here's Jagjivan Ram's house over here. The Minister of Defense lives here.

**Prabhupāda: **Oh.

**Gurudāsa: **Minister of Defense. [break] Central Secretary.

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: **Very impressive.

**Prabhupāda: **That is Parliament.

**Gurudāsa: **Yes.

**Prabhupāda: **And in front, *Rashtrapati Bhavan***.**

**Gurudāsa: **Yes.

**Prabhupāda: **That is India Gate.

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: **Very impressive, Prabhupāda.

**Prabhupāda: **This is British design.

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: **The British built these buildings.

**Gurudāsa: **Except that building. That building, J. M. Jolly built. That building, Mr. Jolly from Bombay built that. Adyar Bhavan.

**Prabhupāda: **Oh.

**Gurudāsa: **Indians could never build such buildings.

**Prabhupāda: **Their style is different. Just like temples.

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: **Yes.

**Prabhupāda: **Gorgeous temples. That's a different style.

**Devotee: **Yes.

**Prabhupāda: **This style is European style.

**Gurudāsa: **Grecian.

**Prabhupāda: **Grecian.

**Gurudāsa: **Greece.

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: **Oh. Greece, Grecian.

**Prabhupāda: **Hah. European culture means Greece and Roman.

**Gurudāsa: **It's called Doric.

**Prabhupāda: ** Hah?

**Gurudāsa: **Doric.

**Prabhupāda: **Doric? Yes.

**Gurudāsa: **Śrīla Prabhupāda, should I try and arrange a meeting with the President?

**Prabhupāda: **[indistinct] simply waste of time [break] We have got already [indistinct]. Here's a Sikh temple.

**Devotee: **Gurudvara.

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: **Very nice.

**Gurudāsa: **But inside there's nothing. Inside there's [indistinct].

**Prabhupāda: **Nobody goes inside.

**Gurudāsa: **Oh. [laughs]

**Prabhupāda: **Everyone is satisfied by [indistinct]. [laughter]

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: **Why can't we get land like that and build something like that in Delhi?

**Prabhupāda: **It is very conspicuous.

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: **Looks like marble.

**Prabhupāda: **Yes. That you can do with white cement.

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: **White cement?

**Prabhupāda: **White cement, maybe. White cement.

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: **People will know we are pretending.

**Prabhupāda: **No, white cement is used now. You plaster with white cement, it becomes almost like marble.

**Gurudāsa: **Nara-Nārāyaṇa said he could reproduce that sandstone, red sandstone, in cement also.

**Prabhupāda: **Sandstone?

**Gurudāsa: **Like that palace in Govardhana?

**Prabhupāda: **Aha.

**Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: **Like the government buildings. That's sandstone.

**Prabhupāda: **Sandstone, yes.

**Devotee: **That's sandstone.

**Prabhupāda: **[indistinct] [laughs] This is the fashion, to take the wife to the backside, and as soon as the *sārī* is entangled in the spokes… Dangerous.

**Gurudāsa: **[laughs] [end]