# Morning Walk *Type: Walk Dated: January 13th 1976 Location: Calcutta Audio file: 760113MW.CAL.mp3* Devotees: *Haribol. Haribol. Haribol. Haribol.* [break] Prabhupāda: How do you like this idea? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: At Victoria... Prabhupāda: Anywhere, as we are walking, the *saṅkīrtana.* [break] ...tiresome. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. Prabhupāda: Walking and chanting, sometimes it is... Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Little bit. It's a good... A good place to do it is that Victoria Memorial, because there's so many... Prabhupāda: People. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...people there. [break] Prabhupāda: ...places better than this place, then you shall go there. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. [break] Madhudviṣa will be there in the morning. He leads the *kīrtana.* Prabhupāda: Yes. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's very lively. [break] Jayapatāka: ...twenty years, they've never swept the street. Prabhupāda: Twenty thousand? Jayapatāka: Something like that = "...are sweeping the street." But only a few thousand of that are actually doing it. There's a big scandal. Prabhupāda: Dishonest. They are producing only dishonest men. [break] ...get a boat like this? No. Jayapatāka: Not a dinghy. This is a bit bigger than... The dinghy is not suitable for rough water. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How big is your boat? As big as that... Jayapatāka: Forty feet. Boats in the back are about two-thirds that size. Prabhupāda: Huh? Jayapatāka: Those two big wooden boats back there? About two-third that size, but not the same exact shape. Those are also big dinghies. [break] ...sagara, Midnapur, Diamond Harbour, that area, where... Prabhupāda: Those places are good places for preaching. Jayapatāka: I went there when I bought the boat. People there are so hungry, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Prabhupāda: Angry? Jayapatāka: Hungry. Hungry. They're very... I was eating a banana. I threw the peel on the ground and a boy picked up and ate the peel. I saw. They are so hungry. If we went there and distributed *prasādam,* so many people would be... Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Jayapatāka: ...enthusiastic. Prabhupāda: So that Consulate General, he has promised to help for getting grains from India, er, from America? Jayapatāka: He's given me the law..., numbers, and he said that it's much higher than he is, but he'll give a recommendation if it comes to him. Apart from that, he told me how it's done. Prabhupāda: So why don't you take it very seriously? Jayapatāka: Well, he just told me last week. I was... I heard you were coming, so... The thing has to be done from Washington, D.C. Prabhupāda: So our men can do it. You advise them to do the needful. [break] Jayapatāka: Caitanya Maṭha's devotees are from Midnapur. Prabhupāda: Hmm? Yes. And Diamond Harbour. Jayapatāka: And most of Mādhava Mahārāja's are from Assam. Prabhupāda: Yes. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They have Assamese? Jayapatāka: All Assam---the *pūjārī,* everything. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Like Nepal? Jayapatāka: No, they're a little bit stronger... Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: [break] ...ese considered to be Aryans? I don't think so. Prabhupāda: They are Mongolians. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I was saying that to Jayapatāka, that they're Mongolians. So the same criticism that everyone has said against you... Prabhupāda: What is that? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...that you are making *mlecchas* and *yavanas brāhmaṇas.* I think that that Mongoloid race is also considered like that. Prabhupāda: I do not follow what you say. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, my point is that they're always feeling that you are creating *brāhmaṇas* amongst such low-class persons. So I see that they... Prabhupāda: If I am creating *brāhmaṇas,* how he is low class? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, we don't agree that he is low class. Prabhupāda: No, no. If he says we are creating *brāhmaṇa,* then where is low class? From logical point of view. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, from low class to high class, he says. Prabhupāda: Actually, everyone is Brahman. So from this conditioned life of non-Brahman, if we create Brahman, what is the wrong there? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Original position. Prabhupāda: Hmm. Ah. [break] Manipur. Jayapatāka: Many Manipur people are coming to Māyāpur now. Many. They wear a special type of uniform, the women, one pinkish dress. Prabhupāda: For seeing our temple? Jayapatāka: They are going everywhere. The Bengalis are going mainly to our temple. But they've come so far, they see everywhere, naturally. But also our temple without fail. [break] The Nabadwip Commissioner came, and he was so impressed. Now he is thinking... He is trying to... He is a little bit greedy that so many things are going in Māyāpur. He is trying to think how he can include Māyāpur within Nabadwip municipality. Prabhupāda: How it can be done? Jayapatāka: That he is failing to do, but he is thinking, anyway. He told me. So many taxes. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Material conception. Jayapatāka: Bribe. [break] Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I think we should return now. Prabhupāda: Hmm. [break] Jayapatāka: ...from Vrndavana has composed some Sanskrit poems for Your Divine Grace. Prabhupāda: Which Śāstrījī? Jayapatāka: That you preached to last year at the festival time. There were seven *śāstrīs,* four of which came to Māyāpur, three of which blooped. One is still left. He is very eager to become initiated. He is very hard working and sincere. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What does he do there? Jayapatāka: He is teaching Sanskrit to the devotees. Prabhupāda: Very nice. Jayapatāka: He is teaching the meter, how to chant them, to all the Western devotees and to the... Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Who's here? Jayapatāka: I never had time to go. Bhāvananda knows. [break] ...the Bengali language also. We have one copy at Māyāpur. If we have a festival here in Calcutta with a Bengali film, many people can appreciate it. Of course, English they also... That first *paṇḍāl,* we didn't have any movie then. Prabhupāda: Hmm? Jayapatāka: Those first *paṇḍāls,* we never had a cinema. Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Jayapatāka: Only *kīrtana.* [end]