# Conversations *Type: Conversation Dated: May 17th 1977 Location: Vṛndāvana Audio file: 770517R1.VRN.mp3* Prabhupāda: Now you can discuss. [Hindi] [end] Prabhupāda: [Hindi] Indian man (1): [Hindi] Prabhupāda: [Hindi about Jayānanda] ...glorious death. [Hindi] What was his age? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Jayānanda was about thirty-eight or forty. Prabhupāda: [Hindi] I was very anxious to print my books. So he was the first one to come forward, a five hundred[?] dollar check. [Hindi conversation] What is this cloth is hanging? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It says, "Welcome, Śrīla Prabhupāda." Prabhupāda: Oh. Where is Gopāla? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He went back to Bombay. Prabhupāda: [Hindi conversation] Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He was in Delhi the day before yesterday. Indian man (1): He came here only for one day. Prabhupāda: Hmm? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He was in Delhi only about two days ago. He'll be coming back here, he said, in about one week from now---one week to ten days. Prabhupāda: [aside:] You can keep here. When Mr. Bose has come? Akṣayānanda: Mr. Ghosh? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bose. Akṣayānanda: Oh. Just three days ago. Prabhupāda: How long he'll stay? Akṣayānanda: He wants to stay. Prabhupāda: He wants, but I don't think he wants. [laughs] It is known to me. Mr. Bose[?]: No, I'll stay. I promised them. Prabhupāda: You promised them? [laughter] Mr. Bose[?]: By blessings. Prabhupāda: This time little advanced he has become there, Bose... Shaven-headed. [Hindi] His father was *sannyāsī.* He's the first *sannyāsī* of Gauḍīya Maṭha. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Prabhupāda: His father was the first *sannyāsī* of Gauḍīya Maṭha, my Godbrother, Bhakti-pradīpa-tīrtha. He was very kindly. He liked me very much. [Hindi conversation] He has come. Just try to train him. [Hindi conversation] The son must be there. You are son of a very big man. The father's quality must be there. Indian man (2): [Hindi] I... Hardly I endorse. Without Your Grace, a man like me, never. I realize your now... Prabhupāda: [Hindi] Indian man (2): He's so kind to me. Akṣayānanda: Everything Prabhupāda does is [indistinct]. Prabhupāda: He is ideal *sannyāsī.* I think he's younger than you. Indian man (2): Yes. As I am engrossed in this way. It is only through his grace I got extricated. It was impossible. I have got all opportunity. Still, the world has attract me in such a way that several times I promised to him; I could not extricate myself. But this time, I really strict and I last only... That strictness I found because I know it now. Prabhupāda: He's coming from government service. *Ācchā.* Indian man (2): Because I know it now. And my father, most dearest Godbrother. He has got a very, our nickname [indistinct]. He's a great poet. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Kavi. Indian man (2): Kavi. In the mission only he is to poet, no other *sannyāsīs* and nobody, even not Prabhupāda, any *sannyāsī.* But he realized it. How much love he saw, Prabhupāda. Yesterday I spoke, yesterday night. The greatest living export that has been brought down by God, it is what Bhaktivedanta Prabhupāda has... He's such a living export, Indian culture... [Hindi] ...in the world. > pṛthivīte āche yata nagarādi grāma > sarvatra pracāra haibe mora nāma [CB Antya-khaṇḍa 4.126] He is the literary living translator and implemented and carried out by single person. And that single person is so much infested and imbued with such a divine power. None of us can do. It is impossible. Practically it is impossible. The Prabhupāda's unfulfillment mission has been fulfilled by this Vedānta Prabhupāda. *Śrīmad-Bhāgavata,* all quotes, quotations, praising this all types of the power, all propagating the *hari-nāma.* And it is all-powerful by him. So there is a medium of literature, medium of professor, medium of the cinema, but still, medium of the personality who in [indistinct] presented it himself. And you, all people, that attracted by his transcendental personality. What with these social religions; there are many authorities and leaders have gone there, and social-religious reformers who practice the *yoga, jñāna, karma,* etcetera, etcetera. But the one person imbued and empowered fully, transcendental form, by Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu Himself, and by his *guru,* Prabhupāda. I realized it. It is not that... Nobody can empower. And as a result our this Vaiṣṇava culture installing the Supreme as Kṛṣṇa pronounced as the *mantra* to worship Him. [Hindi] The *nāma...* If he fulfills the propagation of this out of the *nāma,* and then more powerful... Means that he is the more loved. This *kīrtana,* and more, this *saṅkīrtana.* These three things themselves teach us, though in one word---*kṛṣṇa-nāma-saṅkīrtana* is one faith. But still it has the three aspects---Kṛṣṇa, then *nāma,* then *kīrtana,* then *saṅkīrtana.* So he has, in his life, he exhibited, he translated, and in the world he has given this Kṛṣṇa. He has given this Kṛṣṇa. He has given the *nāma.* He has given the *kīrtana,* the *saṅkīrtana* which we have seen this morning, the *saṅkīrtana, bahubhir militvā.* Wonderful. In the *Caitanya-caritāmṛta...* Prabhupāda: So you have got assets. You have got parentage. Everything you have got. Now do something. You have come. It is a good association. *Satāṁ prasaṅgān mama vīrya-saṁvidaḥ* SB 3.25.25. [break] But they have dedicated their life to Kṛṣṇa. That is their qualification. *Bhajate mām ananya-bhāk sādhur eva sa man...* Bg. 9.30. So their association is *sādhu-saṅga .* Indian man (2): Real association place. [break] Viśvambhara: [Hindi] Prabhupāda: [Hindi] [Hindi conversation as Prabhupāda takes *prasādam*] Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is there any good cow's milk available? Viśvambhara: Oh, so much *brāhmaṇa* has brought so many cows. Prabhupāda: He has now kept some. Viśvambhara: Many cows we have got now. One Dhanañjaya bought, she is giving thirteen kilos, fourteen kilos. Indian man (3): Milk? Viśvambhara: Yes. I bought it from Govardhan, from Dhanañjaya. She is giving thirteen, fourteen kilos. Prabhupāda: [Hindi conversation] Viśvambhara: Transcendental standard, in each and every thing. [Hindi conversation] Prabhupāda: [Hindi conversation] Judgment, Supreme Court, America. [Hindi conversation] And what about that Hindi translation? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That judge is making? Prabhupāda: Huh? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That has to be sent. We don't have it yet. Prabhupāda: [Hindi conversation] [break] "It is folly to be wise where ignorance is bliss." So restaurant is going on in Jalni[?] building? No. Akṣayānanda: Evening, up till ten o'clock. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In the new building? In this building. Prabhupāda: Eh? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It's in the guesthouse. There weren't many people there, though. Only about five people at lunch. Akṣayānanda: Today. Prabhupāda: People are not coming. Akṣayānanda: It's up and down, Prabhupāda. Sometimes it's full. One day it's full; one day it's nothing. It's not steady. This is the problem. We always invite them. We go to the people personally and invite them, and they come. Prabhupāda: Anyway... Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I think the waiters could have been better. They're not very... Akṣayānanda: I can snap them up. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They should be a little more businesslike. [background discussion] [break] Prabhupāda: ...see Rādhā-Dāmodara temple. Akṣayānanda: That would be nice. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Maybe tomorrow, if this Jayaśacīnandana goes the first time, I can go with him. I know Gauracānda a little bit, so I can, you know, just, as your secretary, send your greetings to him. He'll appreciate that. Akṣayānanda: He'll appreciate. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I think what I'll do is I'll go at the time when I know they're supposed to be making that offering. That way, I'll see if it's being done. Little spy work. What time is that offering made? Noontime? Devotee: Yeah, noon. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Twelve? [pause] Prabhupāda: Then have them bring little *prasādam* from there. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. From the plate that's offered to you? Prabhupāda: Yes, from... [break] [end]