Śrīla Prabhupāda.  That means that for their childish curiosity they must spend vast sums of money. Just see the fun. And when they are asked to help one of the many poverty-stricken countries, they say, "No. No money." Do you see?
Տնորիդի քիլներից առանձին առաջին տարածքը է առաջացել առաջին տարածքը միասին (միասին առաջին տարածքը է առաջացել առաջին տարածքը միասին)։
Dr. Singh.  Śrīla Prabhupāda, may we hear a little bit about Sāṅkhya philosophy?
Śrīla Prabhupāda.  There are actually two kinds of Sāṅkhya philosophy: the ancient Sāṅkhya philosophy originally taught by Lord Kapiladeva, and the modern Sāṅkhya philosophy taught more recently by the atheist Kapila. Lord Kapila's Sāṅkhya explains how to become detached from matter and search out Lord Viṣṇu within the heart. This Sāṅkhya is actually a process of devotional service. But the modern Sāṅkhya philosophy simply analyzes the material world into its various elements. In that respect, it is just like modern scientific research.  Sāṅkhya  means "to count." We are also Sāṅkhya philosophers to some extent because we count the material elements: this is land, this is water, this is fire, this is air, this is ether. Furthermore, I can count my mind, my intelligence and my ego. Beyond my ego, however, I cannot count. But Kṛṣṇa says that there  is  something beyond the ego, and that is the living force. This is what scientists do not know. They think that life is merely a combination of material elements, but Kṛṣṇa denies this in the  Bhagavad-gītā  (7.5):
apareyam itas tv anyām prakṛtiṁ viddhi me parām jīva-bhūtāṁ mahā-bāho yayedaṁ dhāryate jagat
"Besides this inferior nature [earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and false ego] there is a superior energy of Mine, which consists of all the living entities who are struggling with material nature and sustaining the universe."
Dr. Singh.  Are both the inferior and the superior energies studied in modern Sāṅkhya philosophy?
Śrīla Prabhupāda.  No. Modern Sāṅkhya philosophers do not study the superior energy. They simply analyze the material elements, just as the scientists are doing. The scientists do not know that there is spirit soul, nor do the Sāṅkhya philosophers.
Dr. Singh.  They are analyzing the creative material elements?
Śrīla Prabhupāda.  The material elements are not creative! Only the soul is creative. Life cannot be created from matter, and matter cannot create itself. You, a living entity, can mix hydrogen and oxygen to create water. But matter itself has no creative potency. If you place a bottle of hydrogen near a bottle of oxygen, will they automatically combine, without your help?
Dr. Singh , No. They must be mixed...
Śrīla Prabhupāda.  Of course. Oxygen and hydrogen are Kṛṣṇa's inferior energy, but when you, the superior energy, mix them, then they can become water.
The Remote Cause and the Immediate Cause
Śrīla Prabhupāda.  Inferior energy has no power unless superior energy is involved. This sea [indicating the Pacific Ocean] is calm and quiet. But when the superior force, air, pushes it, it manifests high waves. The ocean has no power to move without the superior force of the air.