The Fifteenth Morning Walk: December 7, 1973
Recorded on December 7, 1973, On the shores of the Pacific Ocean Near Los Angeles
Śrīla Prabhupāda  is accompanied by  Dr. Singh, Dr. W. H. Wolf-Rottkay and another student.
Getting the Eyes to See Godd
Student.  For the last one hundred fifty years, one of the major problems of Western theologians has been the relationship between reason and faith. They have been seeking to understand faith through reason, but they have been unable to find the relationship between the reasoning abilities and faith. Some of them have  faith  in God, but their  reason  tells them there is no God. For instance, they would say that when we offer  prasāda  to the Lord, it is only faith to think that He accepts it, because we cannot see Him.
Śrīla Prabhupāda.   They cannot see Him, but I can see Him. I see God, and therefore I offer prasāda to Him.  Because they cannot see Him, they must come to me so I can open their eyes. They are blind-suffering from cataracts-so I shall operate, and they will see. That is our program.
Student.  Scientists say that their common ground of objectivity is what they can perceive with their senses.
Śrīla Prabhupāda.  Yes, they can perceive things with their senses, but very imperfectly. They perceive the sand with their senses, but can they see who has made the sand? Here is the sand, and here is the sea; they can be seen by direct perception. But how can one directly perceive the  origin  of the sand and the sea?
Student.  The scientists say that if the sand and the sea were made by God, we would be able to see Him, just as we can see the sand and the sea themselves.
Śrīla Prabhupāda.  Yes, they can see God, but they must get the eyes to see Him. They are blind. Therefore they must first come to me for treatment. The  śāstras  say that one must go to a  guru  to be treated so that one can understand God. How can they see God with blind eyes?
Student.  But seeing God is supramundane. Scientists only consider mundane vision.
Śrīla Prabhupāda.  Everything is supramundane. For instance, you may think there is nothing in the clear sky-that it is vacant-but your eyes are deficient. In the sky there are innumerable planets you cannot see because your eyes are limited. Therefore, because it is not in your power to perceive, you have to accept my word: "Yes, there are millions of stars out there." Is space vacant because you cannot see the stars? No. Only the deficiency of your senses leads you to think so.
Student.  The scientists will admit their ignorance of some things, but they say they cannot accept what they cannot see.