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THE SCIENCE OF SELF-REALIZATION
philosophy? Roguism. "I will take the land by force, and then I won't allow others to come here."
BTG:  One American motto is "One nation under God."
Śrila Prabhupāda:  Yes, that is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. There should be one nation under God, and one world government under God as well. Everything belongs to God, and we are all His sons. That philosophy is wanted.
BTG:  But in America people are very much afraid of a central government because they think that whenever there's a strong government there will always be tyranny.
Śrila Prabhupāda:  If the leaders are properly trained, there cannot be tyranny.
BTG:  But one of the premises of the American system of government is that if a leader has too much power, he will inevitably become corrupt.
Śrila Prabhupāda:  You have to train him in such a way that he cannot become corrupt!
BTG:  What is that training process?
Śrila Prabhupāda:  That training is the  varṇāśrama-dharma .* Divide the society according to quality, and train people in the principle that everything belongs to God and should be used in the service of God. Then there really can be "one nation under God."
BTG:  But if society is divided into different groups, won't there be envy?
Śrila Prabhupāda:  No, no. Just as in my body there are different parts that work together, so the society can have different parts working for the same goal. My hand is different from my leg. But when I tell the hand, "Bring a glass of water," the leg will help. The leg is required, and the hand is required.
BTG:  But in the Western world we have a working class and a capitalist class, and there is always warfare going on between the two.
Śrila Prabhupāda:  Yes. The capitalist class is required, and the working class is also required.
BTG:  But they are fighting.
Śrila Prabhupāda:  Because they are not trained up; they have no common cause. The hand and the leg work differently, but the common cause is to maintain the body. So if you find out the common cause for both the capitalists and the workers, then there will be no fighting. But if you do not know the common cause, then there will always be fighting.
* The system of dividing society into four social and four spiritual orders according to people's natural qualities.