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the spirit soul. They are simply analyzing Krṣṇa's material energy.
Dr. Singh:  They are analyzing the creative material elements?
Śrīla Prabhupāda:  Material elements are not creative! The  soul  is creative. No one can create life with only matter, and matter cannot create itself. You, a living entity, can mix hydrogen and oxygen to create water. But matter itself has no creative energy. If you place a bottle of hydrogen near a bottle of oxygen, will they automatically combine without your help?
Dr. Singh:  No. They must be mixed.
Śrīla Prabhupāda:  Yes, the superior energy—the living entity—is required. Oxygen and hydrogen are inferior energy, but when the superior energy mixes them, then they can become water.
Inferior energy has no power unless superior energy is involved. This sea [indicating the Pacific Ocean] is calm and quiet. But when superior force—air—pushes it, high waves are created. The sea has no power without the superior force. Similarly, there is another force superior to the air, and another, and another, until we arrive at Krṣṇa, the most superior force. This is real research. Suppose a railroad train is just starting to move. The engine pushes one car, which pushes another, and so on, until the entire train is moving. And the whole motion originates with the engineer, a living entity. Similarly, in the cosmic creation, Krṣṇa gives the first push, and then, by means of many successive pushes, the entire cosmic manifestation comes into being. This is explained in the  Bhagavad-gītā  [9.10]:  mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ sūyate sa-carācaram . “This material nature is working under My direction, O son of Kuntī, and is producing all moving and unmoving beings.” And a little later:
sarva-yoniṣu kaunteya mūrtayaḥ sambhavanti yāḥ tāsāṁ brahma mahad yonir ahaṁ bīja-pradaḥ pitā
“All species of life are made possible by birth in material nature, and I am the seed-giving father.” [Bg. 14.4] For example, if we sow a banyan seed, a huge tree eventually grows up and produces millions of new seeds. Each of these seeds, in turn, produces another tree with millions of new seeds, and so on. So Krṣṇa is the original seed-giving father.
Unfortunately, the scientists only observe the immediate cause; they do not perceive the remote cause. There are two causes—the immediate cause and the remote cause. Krṣṇa is described in the  Vedas  as