22 Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers

To this place—dubkhdlayam asaivatam. This place is the
abode of miseries. Everyone knows, but they have been
befooled by so-called leaders. Material life is miserable life.
Krsna says, God says, that this place is duhkhdlayam—it is a
place of miseries. And it is also asasvatam, temporary. You
cannot make a compromise: “‘All right, let it be miserable. I
shall remain here as an American or Indian?’ No. That also
you cannot do. You cannot remain an American. You may
think that, having been born in America, you are very
happy. But you cannot remain an American for long. You
will have to be kicked out of that place. And your next life
you do not know! Therefore, it is duhkhdlayam asasvatam—
miserable and temporary. That is our philosophy.

BOB: But when you have some knowledge of God, then life
is not so miserable?

SRILA PRABHUPADA: No! Some knowledge will not do.
You must have perfect knowledge.

janma karma ca me divyam
evam yo vetti tattvatah

Tattvatah means “‘perfectly.” Perfect knowledge is being
taught in Bhagavad-gita. So, we are giving everyone in
human society a chance to learn Bhagavad-gita as it is and
make his life perfect. That is the Krsna consciousness
movement. What does your science say about the
transmigration of the soul?

BoB: I think... that science . . . cannot deny or
affirm it. Science does not know it.

SRILA PRABHUPADA: Therefore I say that science is
imperfect.

BOB: Science may, though, say something. It is said in
science that energy is never destroyed; it is changed.
