90 Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers

suicide; it is unnatural. So because we have independence,
we can go from nature to “un-nature.” A prisoner cannot
go out of the prison house naturally, but somehow or other
he arranges to jump over the wall and goes away. Then he
becomes a criminal for further imprisonment. Naturally,
the prisoner cannot go out of the prison house, but if some-
how or other he manages to escape, that means he becomes
again a criminal. He will be arrested again, and his term of
imprisonment will be increased, or he will be punished
more. So, naturally we cannot violate destiny. But if we do
it, then we will suffer. But our destiny can be changed by
Krsna when we are Krsna conscious. We do not do it, but
Krsna will do it. Krsna says: ahari tvatn sarva-papebhyo mok-
sayisyami: “I shall give you protection.” That change takes
place for my protection.

There are two stages—nondevotee and devotee. The
nondevotee is under the control of material nature, and the
devotee is under the direct control of Krsna. In the office of
a big man, an executive of a big company, there are many
employees, and they are controlled by different
departmental superintendents. But although outside of
home he controls indirectly, the same man at home is con-
trolling his children directly. But he is always a controller.
Similarly, God is the controller always. When one becomes
a devotee, he is controlled by God; when he is a non-
devetee, he is controlled by His agent, maya But he has to
be controlled. For example, every citizen of America is con-
trolled by the government. When he is all right, the civil
department controls him; when he is not all right, the cri-
minal department controls him. But he cannot say, “I am
not controlled.” That is not possible. Everyone is con-
trolled. If somebody says, ‘I am not controlled,” he is not
