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sarva-kdrana-karanam, the cause of all causes. If you understand the
cause of all causes, then you understand everything. Yasmin vijfidte sar-
vam evam vijfiatam bhavati: ‘‘If you know the original cause, the later,
subordinate causes are automatically known.’’ Although the scientists
_ are searching after the original cause, when the Vedas, which contain per-
fect knowledge, give the original cause, they won’t accept. They keep to
their partial, imperfect knowledge.
Dr. Singh: Scientists are worried about energy sources, and now they are
working to utilize solar energy for cooking, lighting, and various other
purposes. They are hoping that when they exhaust all other energy
sources, they will be able to use solar energy.
Srila Prabhupada: This is not a very new theory. Everyone knows that
because the roots of trees store the sun’s energy, it is possible to get fire
from a tree. These scientists are tiny creatures, but they are very proud.
We don’t give them credit, because they are simply stating what every-
’ one knows. As soon as you cut a tree, you cannot get fire from it. It has to
be dried in the sun. When the energy is gathered from the sun, the tree
can be utilized for fire. Actually everything is being maintained by the
sun’s energy, but the scientists don’t know where the sun’s energy
comes from. In the Bhagavad-gitd [15.12] Krsna says:
yad dditya-gatam tejo
jagad bhasayate ’khilam
yac candramasi yac cagnau
tat tejo viddhi mamakam
“‘The splendor of the sun, which dissipates the darkness of this whole
world, comes from Me. And the splendor of the moon and the splendor
of fire are also from Me.””

Again, Krsna says, jyotisam ravir amsuman: ‘‘Of lights I am the radiant
sun.” [Bg. 10.21] Also, in the Eleventh Chapter of the Bhagavad-gita Ar-
juna tells Krsna, sasi-strya-netram: ‘“The sun and moon are among Your
great, unlimited eyes.”’ This knowledge is contained in the Bhagavad-
gitd, but scientists cannot attain this knowledge by their speculation. Can
they?

Dr. Singh: It is not possible.

Srila Prabhupada: And what is their knowledge? The scriptures say that
even if you counted all the grains of sand on earth, you still would not be
able to understand God. All this material counting does not mean that
you have the capacity to understand the unlimited. But it is even beyond
