156 TEACHINGS OF QUEEN KUNTI

go to the ocean, there also we shall find a form, like that of a big circle.
Without form there is nothing; everything has form, even that which is
supposedly impersonal.

Therefore the idea that everything is zero or impersonal is foolish.
Behind the impersonal feature and the so-called voidness is the supreme
form—Krsna. [svarah paramah krsnah sac-cid-dnanda-vigrahah. The
word isvara means ‘‘controller.’’ Nature is not controlling itself; the real
controller is Krsna. Icchdnuriipam api yasya ca cestate sa. The Brahma-
samhitd (5.44) says that Prakrti, or Durga—the deity of material nature—
is working under the direction of Govinda, Krsna. How is she working?
Just like a shadow. Below our hand is its shadow, and as our hand moves,
the shadow moves. Behind all manifestations there is motion. I have
sometimes given the example of the shunting of the big cars in a railway
line. The engine gives the motion and pushes one car, which then pushes
another and another, and so on. Similarly, who set up the motion of the
cosmic manifestation? That original motion-giver is Krsna.

Now Kuntidevi says, ‘‘We Pandavas have become famous, and people
say that we are very important. Why? Because You are our friend.”
Krsna was the friend of the Pandavas and specifically the friend of Ar-
juna, and therefore Arjuna was a great and valorous warrior. But
Kuntidevi knew, ‘‘People say, ‘Oh, the Pandavas are such great warriors
and heroes,’ but what is the value of my sons, the Pandavas?”’ Similarly,
the Yadu dynasty was famous because Krsna took His birth in that family.
But Kuntidevi says, ke vayam: ‘‘What are we? What is our value?’’ Ke
vayam nama-rupabhyam: ‘‘We have our name and form, but without You
it is all useless. It has no value.”

People do not understand this. They are very proud of having a nice
body and a nice name. They think, ‘I am American,” ‘‘I am Indian,” “‘I
am German,”’ and so on. But what is all this? These are simply bogus
names and bogus forms with no value.

If we subtract Krsna, everything is zero. This is a fact, but people are
such rascals that they do not understand this fact. But who can deny it?
The American body or Indian body may have a good name, but if it has
no consciousness, what is its value? No value. Therefore it is said:

bhagavad-bhakti-hinasya
jatih Sastram japas tapah

apranasyeva dehasya
mandanam loka-ranjanam
